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Thursday, May 15, 2025

Considering the Fate of 'Bel John' — Is He Currently Leading a 'Split-Off' 'Parallel Life'

Postscript Article to the Recent Blog Series Involving the Paranormal Initiation of Bel John As Everyman
 
art by Grok 3; below is a chart by Copilot

 
In this article, the evidence is shared that indicate the possibilities that the relationship of this blogger with Bel John (featured in recent articles in the role of an 'everyman') may go beyond such past lifetime possibilities as being 'soulmates' or 'soul twins' (the subject of one blog article).  A passage written by the Greek Philosopher Plato (428-347 B.C.) in Symposium offers some sentences correlating with one of the channeled perspectives quoted in this article.

. . . so ancient is the desire of one another which is implanted in us, reuniting our original nature, making one of two, and healing the state of man.
 
Each of us when serparated, having one side only, like a flat fish, is but the indenture of a man, and he is always looking for his other half . . . Wherefore let us exhort all men to piety, that we may avoid evil, and obtain the good, of which Love is to us the lord and minister; and let no one oppose him — he is the enemy of the gods who oppose him.  For if we are friends of the God and at peace with him we shall find our own true loves, which rarely happens in this world at present.
 
During a recent livestream, Bel John wore a costume that makes him resemble the veritable contemporary 'black magician' and 'sorcerer' descriptions that some of the recent articles at this blog have used to metaphorically designate him.  He is accustomed to using video technology to explore his prowess in manipulating the consciousness of other people to experience fear or other emotions and phobias aroused through 'skits' that at times implement 'jumpscares' with him role-playing during Omegle-style conversations with strangers.  While Bel John has associated himself with his familial religion of Christianity, he often shows little sensitivity to the Commandment Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor in relation to himself often telling lies during skits.
 

 
Hundreds of previous blog articles provide evidence and documentation of extensively chronicled  'Deep Trance,' 'Overshadowing' or 'Total Takeover' channeling case chronologies.  Some of the instructions representing the ascended realm of life that have been quoted in the recent blog series of articles include:
 
All your acts, commit them with love, and you shall never have to be concerned with the results.  With love!  This is the golden key to the light.

Every person upon Earth and its adjoining planes of manifestation are definitely arrayed upon either the positive side of progression toward good, or on the negative side of regression toward greater evil . . . 
 
There is a continual warring between positive and negative forces . . .
 
The body is a kind of electric-magnetic field and it can be changed from a positive to a negative and back and forth by the way it is played upon by outer forces.
 
Every being that you can bring light to, will bring greater light to you. 
 
Even hate has its place . . . it is a tool by which the hateful learn not to hate.  
 
. . . anyone who becomes a pretender becomes so confused by who they are that they are eventually . . . the parts they play . . . 
 
Most people coming into your world are of the robot stage, and with no one to awaken them, they stay asleep. 

The only way to get to heaven is to become heaven.
 
. . . to think negative thoughts, he can become a destroyer and a black magician and suffer the consequences.
 
[regarding the ascended realm of life]  Here nothing is hidden.  Everything is shown gradually, in its evolution.  If you want to tune-in to someone for whom you have admiration, you can see that person and by the mere process of thought, enter into a condition of their life and their personality.  You see events as they actually happened in the form of picturisation in ether, almost as if you were watching a moving picture screen — a cinema screen.
 
 
Some of the paranormal aspects regarding how Bel John became a focus of attention for me are chronicled in the series of blog articles and there are others.  Occasionally I remind readers about entertainment pastimes that reflection should be given to what is being expressed by Omnipresent Mind through the conscious creativity of individual channels and how positive / 'good' or negative / 'bad' polarities are involved in whatever is being expressed — Due to the ignorance among human consciousness units on Earth, the shared Superconscious Mind offers lessons in oblique ways through contemporary entertainment media.  Travesty and ignominy may be aspects of an entertainment experience so that people may be motivated to seek more intellectually sound activities.

Here are some Pop Song lyrics created through conscious creativity as is commonly done by us Earth people.  These lyrics are featured in the embedded videos seen in the recent Paranormal Initiation of Bel John As Everyman series of blog articles.
 
I am the eye in the sky
Looking at you
I can read your mind
I am the maker of rules
 
Business, Numbers, Money, People . . . Time, Travel, Communication, Entertainment
Computer World
 
Hey you, you're a child in my head
You haven't walked yet
Your first words have yet to be said
But I swear you'll be blessed
 
Don't give up until you drink from the silver cup
You never know until you try
 
Hello
Is there anybody in there . . . 
 
We know you
They know me
Extrasensory
Synchronicity
A star fall
A phone call
It joins all
Synchronicity
 
If we call for the proof and we question the answers
Only the doubt will grow
Are we blind to the truth or a sign to believe in?
Only the wise will know
 
I've been alive forever
And I wrote the very first song
I put the words and the melodies together
I am music, and I write the songs
 
Be yourself, don't hide
Just believe in destiny . . . Don't give up and use the chance
To return to innocenc
e
 
Here come the world with the look in its eye
Future uncertain, but certainly slight
Look at the faces, listen to the bells
It's hard to believe we need a place called hell . . .
 
I — M — H — I — M, the Gen Z Eminem . . . (What the f*** is wrong with you?)
 
The subject of human beings having "parallel lifetimes" and "split-offs" is found in a transcript of the channeled entity 'Lazaris' speaking through Jach Pursel in the book Lazaris Interviews Book II (1988).
 
two photos of 'Lazaris' speaking through the entranced Jach Pursel
 
 
Bel John was born in September 1996.  His birth occurred a little more than a year after my life-changing insights were gained and my entire orientation to life transformed upon returning home from my 'talking poltergeist' research expedition.  In Article No. 7 of this series is included a description of my Instrumental Transcommunication experience circa 1992 that left the unforgettable impression that some unknown bald man had been placed in contact with me from 'the other side.'
 
This article also features channeled perspectives from 'John' and 'Atun-Re' through Kevin Ryerson, 'Solli' through Neville Rowe, and some conclusionary excerpts from 'Ramtha' through JZ Knight from A Master’s Reflection on the History of Humanity Part I (2001).

 
The information shared in the transcripts forthcoming in this article relates to the psychological conditions relating to predicament of paranormal experiencers and now Bel John upon having found this blogger has identified him as being some manner of 'Chosen one.'  Regarding the pronouncement of the reality of "split-offs" among 'souls' or 'soulmates,' one way of considering this is a philosophical way (at least).  Beyond one's physical endowments and experiential aspects of all incarnations / lifetimes—and beyond what cultural indoctrination about life that oneself accepts—everyone is 'the same' in that each person constitutes an individual 'split-off' unit / iota / splinter / personality of Source Consciousness / 'The Only One.'
 
Another obvious interpretation of the predicament when someone suddenly finds himself or herself chosen to be avatar or initiate to higher consciousness and finds oneself tested in unexpected ways will involve being able to liberate the self from the cultural indoctrination where one is relentlessly relegated to being a consumer and pawn of the military industrial corporate complex.  As long as the consumer is occupying oneself with entertainment and whatever news the current bureaucracies have deemed to be most beneficial, he or she will not disturb in any way the current plans among oligarchy.  What both oligarch and that silly person engaging in entertainment each has in common is a lack of realization about their own nature and most momentous purpose for being.  This purpose relates to being able when the time comes to recognize the profundity of your predicament when comes the moment yourself will be in a position to help all other units evolve in the light of love so that the Divine Plan may reap the rewards beyond measure that have been sought for millennia to become experienced by all on the earthly plane.  Freedom of choice is the freedom to realize the potential of an initiate and become avatar or to passively await something wonderful to happen beyond yourself.  As the evidence shared in hundreds of articles at this blog, events and miracles of wonder have been commonly suppressed by the fearful and by those without courage due to ignorance and superstition throughout the entirety of the present age.
 
In the first transcript anthology book of Lazaris Interviews, the entity called attention to human perceptions about "The New Spirituality — the New Age" in relation to the movement being misconceived as constituting "a replacement" for Fundamentalist and traditional religions.  Lazaris observed the new movement to be "an extension, an expansion beyond that which organized religions believe.  The New Spirituality builds upon many of the traditional religious ideals . . . misconceptions and the fear that they produce lead to the commonly accepted polarity between religion and new thought." 
 
 
 
 
Other Lives, Other Times (Excerpts)
 

Every lifetime you have is occurring now.
 
Now you have those lifetimes, and you put them on a continuum.  You call the left end of this continuum the past, and you call the right end of it the future.  All that really means is that you are putting the whole array of lifetimes that are randomly or scattered or placed out there — the entire smörgåsbord of lifetimes — in order.  You are putting them in sequence.
 
Following the analogy of smörgåsbord, when you go to a cafeteria, do you ever notice that while standing at the beginning of the line all the food is there?
 
 
Well, your lifetimes are like that, too, all laid out.  They're all there.  You choose.  "I'm going to do this one, and then I'm going to follow it with this one, and then I'm going to follow it with that one."  You give yourself time.  Sometimes your next lifetime might be in Atlantis, or it might be in the Middle Ages, or it might be in the 1800s.  They're all there.  They're all there, and you pick and choose which ones you want to experience when you want to experience them.
 
The other analogy we use is a movie theatre.  Particularly your multiple cinemas are conducive to this.  When you go to a multiple cinema, sometimes all the movies are playing at the same time.  You can go to this one and that one and this one and that one — any order you want.  They're all playing.
 
So lifetimes are that way.  You have those that are called past and present and future lifetimes that are those which are in the same space as you, but in different times, and that's your illusion.  You also have those lifetimes that are called parallel lifetimes, which are in the same time, but in a different space.  There's a "you" that's alive now that isn't this you, but is a parallel to you.  It's not literally a geometric parallel, but it's a "parallel" to you in time, not space.  Some of you have two or three parallel lifetimes.  A "you" might be living in New York City right now, a best-selling author living on Fifth Avenue with a view of the park or whatever.  A parallel life is a split-off of you.
 
Often split-offs occur in your adolescence because those are the times that you are highly filled with fantasy.  Some of you, when you were 13, could have "died" to be a doctor, right?  You watched every doctor show.  You read every doctor book.  A doctor — that's what you were going to be — a doctor, a doctor, a doctor, a doctor, a doctor!  Then one day something happened, and . . . "Doctor?  I don't want to be a doctor!"  It's as though it disappeared.
 
Often what has happened is you've split off, and that part of you, who has the same parents and the same upbringing, splits off and lives a totally different life, let's say as a doctor at Columbia University in New York City, or wherever.  But if you went to New York, if you looked them up in the roster, you'd never find them, because although they're in the same time, they're in a different space.  Those are parallel lifetimes.
 
You have past lifetimes and parallel lifetimes.  Your parallel lifetimes have past lifetimes and your past lifetimes also have their parallel lifetimes.
 
Assume that you have a past lifetime where you live and die as a corner grocer in Chicago, 1880 - 1960.  You have your current lifetime doing whatever you do, and you were born in Pittsburgh in 1940.  For those 20 years — from 1940 to 1960 — the two lifetimes overlap.  There are overlapping lifetimes that you have because all the lifetimes are happening at once.  Time is an illusion.  All lifetimes are simultaneous — past, present, future, parallel, overlapping.  All of them are happening at once.
 
The most correct way would be to refer to all lifetimes as concurrent lives experienced in varying time / space continua.  That is rather bulky, so you call them past, present, future, parallel, or overlapping.  This is technically incorrect, but both efficient and effective.  Like time itself, it is an illusion that is technically incorrect, but both efficient and effective.
 
"Well, why bother about past lifetimes?"  Exactly.  Why bother?  Some of you have no interest in them.  Fine, don't bother!  The Channel has no particular interest in his past lifetimes.  We did a life reading for him one time.  We made a cassette tape for him at Peny's request.  He listened to it once and said, "Hmm."  And that was it.
 
What about those of you who have had life readings?  Should you not have done so?  No.  If you're interested in lives, then learn about them.  What we suggest, and we make this very clear whenever we talk of past lives, is that lifetimes do not cause.  They do not cause your current life.  They influence.  They influence.
 
We've used the analogy of a sunburn, where if you're sunburned and someone slaps you sharply on the back . . . "Oh!"  It's going to sting.  It's going to make you cry.  It's going to make you hate for a moment or two until you can control yourself. 

If you have no sunburn on the back and someone slaps you sharply, it's going to sting, but not as much.  It may annoy you.  "Why do they have to be like that!"  It may cause some irritation, but not hate.
 
What caused the pain?  Sunburn?  No.  No.  The sunburn did not cause the pain.  The slap on the back caused the pain.  The sunburn influenced the intensity.

Lifetimes are like sunburn.  They can influence each other, but they do not control.  They do not cause.  Therefore, if you failed in a past lifetime, it does not mean you will fail now.  But if you do fail now, if you do create failure now ("now" is the only place you can create anything anyway), the fact that you failed previously may influence what you do — how you handle it now.  For some of you it may influence in such a way that you can handle the failure more smoothly.  "No problem.  I don't know why, but I know exactly what to do about it."  Because of the influence of the past, you are prepared to handle this one easily.  Other may feel totally devastated because the previous failure produces an influence of feeling more fearful.
 
Lifetimes can influence, just as you and a friend can influence each other.  But you cannot honestly control each other.  What you do does not make them, does not control them.  It can influence them.  Lifetimes are like friends.
 
 
You do not ever meet a parallel lifetime, and you tend not to run into your overlapping lifetimes, because the trauma would be just too disconcerting.  No, you don't run into them, and they don't have the same events.
 
Overlapping lifetimes are lifetimes where the previous one has not quite ended when the next one begins.  The end of one overlaps the beginning of another.  Sometimes your favorite television shows overlap, or two movies that you want to see on the same night overlap.  It is disconcerting, isn't it?
 
Well, you do sometime experience the same phenomenon in lifetimes since they are all simultaneous.  One begins before the other ends, except with lifetimes you generally aren't aware of the overlap because it would be too confusing.  It would be too confusing for a five-year-old child to encounter or confront the 80-year-old man they are / were / are in a previous lifetime.  It would be really disconcerting.  They'd lock you up — either as the old man realizing "I'm a five-year-old child," or as a five-year-old child realizing, "I'm an old man!"  Either way, you're in trouble.
 
So therefore, you bury even the intuition or remembrance of such things.  Shhhh!  Don't even talk about that stuff, you know?  Anyway, even if you did have an intuitive "hit," by the time you're six or seven you forget about it anyway, so we would suggest you aren't aware of probable selves like that.  No, you don't run into them, and they don't have the same events.
 
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This article continues with channeled perspectives about the nature of experiences encompassing emotions involving disappointment and depression.  The speakers are 'channeled entities' representing the ascended realm of life 'John' and 'Atun-Re' through Kevin Ryerson  (1, 2, 3)  and 'Soli'—whom has been described as "a composite of entities" (1, 2)—through Neville Rowe.  The transcripts here are from Spirit Speaks magazine issue 18 (1987).



 
Transcript Passages of Commentary From 'John' Through Kevin Ryerson

Stored in the subconscious are the major seeds of feeling and emotion.  In the faculties of the subconscious there is a tendency to place in the emotion a literalness that is not necessarily fully placed or emphasized as the state of the so-called 'conscious' mind.  For here we would divide the faculties of mind into three predominant grounds: conscious, subconscious and superconscious.
 
The superconscious dimensions are reserved to the Spirit, the subconscious are the faculty or the storehouse of primarily the intuitive, subconscious resources and the dimensions of that which is known as emotions.  Emotions are primarily those faculties that are not fully resolved upon the conscious levels.

Depression is where the series of events in a person's life (be they karmic or be they events that have occurred in the course of this lifetime) would be judged by a particular authority figure such as society, parental, occupational or inner authority, as being negative or affecting the esteem of the individual in relationship to their peers or their own sense of self.

Continuous emphasis upon these negativities, to the point to where the conscious mind focuses only upon them, where they become an issue of character, constitutes the beginning of the depressed state.  For it is that all mind is but a process of memory.  It is only how an individual chooses to emphasize memory, or have perspective upon it, as to how the individual perceives themselves to be.  A continuous emphasis on the negative can eventually lead toward dormancy in the activity in the ability to access positive memories.  This transpires both upon a level to where the effects eventually become pathological or physiological in nature.

The continuous condition of the motor recall and neural synapses may have a tendency to cause a neural firing to where the physiological response to the body physical becomes only sensitive to the stimuli that trigger the depressive memory states.  The body then, in turn, seeking to resist these faculties in the same, would respond in a self-preserving modality.

In the early phases, there can be some beneficial effects from a mild depressive state, but this becomes a need for the individual to slow their pace of activities to become introspective and to become contemplative or meditative.  So thus, depression could be looked at as a biological form of enforced meditation.  However, to the point where it eventually becomes pathological, or chronic, this then becomes the true state of so-called clinical depression.
 
The sleep state comes from two faculties.  One, a continuous stress, in particular construction of the circulatory systems, has a tendency to lead to a depleting of physical vitality upon the individual.  Also, it is a biological duplication of deeper meditative states, where the individual, through the sleep, is attempting to gain insights from subconscious and superconscious sources.  However, as this becomes chronic, it becomes then a means to escape conscious confrontation with their activities and beliefs.  So thus, the measure is a two-way sword in a sense that it can serve to promote healing in the early phases.
 
Emotional highs and lows are but the pendulum swings to where the truth lies, which is the middle path.  Emotional highs are but compulsive behavior to achieve a desensitizing to a negatively emotionally charged issue in life.  In the emotional low of depression, the individual is no longer aligned with esteem and true knowledge of themselves.
 
It is in the middle path where feeling lies.  We would describe feeling as the clearly aligned conscious and subconscious emotions of unresolved issues, unresolved or unfulfilled needs in a person's life.
 
Feelings are the ability to be intuitively aligned with the natural order of the person.
 
The true emotional high should be joy.  The true depth of the individual or emotional low should be contemplation.  So contemplation with joy begets esteem, which is the natural state of your character.  So there should be no highs or low, for what are they communicating?  Either that the individual must align with their true needs, that their lives should be lived with joy, and that is their natural state, or that they should be contemplative and sensitive for that is also their natural state.
 
When we, ourselves do not feel self-esteem, there is a tendency to need to bring other individuals in reversal of a principle of fellowship to a level to which they feel our pain, or our depression which is a lack of self-esteem.
 
In seeking to bring individuals to that level, we often feel that no one may feel our negative emotional patterns, or in particular, our psychological or spiritual pain.  So thus we either compulsively (and sometimes deliberately) transfer to individuals certain words, images or communication that may make them feel as we feel.
 
At times there is a legitimate reaching out in pain to communicate so that another may gain understanding.  When we truly reach out in understanding, another individual will not be depressed or even saddened.  They will be moved in such a manner to develop empathy or sympathy, but never pity.  Seek to converse with the other individual friend to friend.  And as they move more tightly and more tightly in fellowship and the barriers drop away, they realize that it is the love that they hold for each other that creates that moment of conversation.
 
But if an individual is so unaware of their deepest feelings, and their lack of self-esteem, the words may be sharp and cutting to others for they wish them to feel as responsible for their position as they.  This is so-called "guilt."  It is an inability of an individual to fully accept what they perceive as the burden of their circumstances, and they feel an unjustness.  Thus they seek to communicate to others, usually unwittingly, seeking to bring them to that same position.  And that position then is a lowered esteem.
 
The individual may always resort to the more spiritual dimensions.  For this helps the individual to achieve a greater sense of overall esteem, for they would have a need of a restoration of their worthiness in relationship to the whole perspective of their life.  What is of the Spirit may be applicable to many and all areas of life when the individual reaches such states as called deep depression.  The spiritual therapies are better applied here because these cause the individual to go into a sense of their overall purposefulness in life, and to restore the understanding that life itself is meaning enough for living.
 
They would then be able to find the vitality, the energy and the resource to go about reentering activities such as occupational, marriage pursuits, and other accords.  In many cases individuals will gain insights that life itself is purpose enough.  They begin to see the Spirit residing in others.  They then know that not only do they have value but the universe of the greater Spirit values them.
 
 
Transcript Passage of Commentary From 'Atun-Re' Through Kevin Ryerson
 
Joy is simply the ability to feel one's own well being.  It is the ability to release stress in one's life.  It is the ability to laugh easily.  It is the ability to see humor and to have insight into any circumstance from a position of esteem.  For, from the position of esteem, one can see the great heights that they may achieve or indeed how small they are in relationship to something else.  And also it is the ability to feel small at times — when you have the rug jerked out from you and you can laugh a bit at yourself.  So, therefore, it is the ability to have comfort in esteem and with the continuously clear perspective upon any circumstance in life.  That is joy.
 
Here it is 5,000 years since my last incarnation, and you're still asking the same questions because nothing has changed, my children.  It is that you are old and wise souls, asking the same question.  You call them universal, about love and joy and fear and death, and all those different things.
 
It is that you are spiritual beings upon a spiritual path.  And as you hear these words, my children, are you going to be here 5,000 years later, or are you going to be here in the now and take these words and apply them in your life?  This is not to (how do you say) "chew you out" or anything to that effect, but it is to make you wiser, to open both your minds and your hearts.  For without the open heart, one which is full of joy, my children, there is no fulfillment upon the path.
 
These rare photos of Neville Rowe are from theTime-Life book Spirit Summonings (1989), as are most of the photos seen in this article.  The book quotes "the group consciousness of six dolphins, known collectively as Cajuba."  The entity explained: "These vibrations are translated into English language words within the subconscious mind of this channel."
 
 
Transcript Passages of Commentary From 'Soli' Through Neville Rowe
 
It would seem that you are born to worry.  You allow your intellects great power in your society.  You live in a very logical, intellectual society.  You analyze everything.  You think about everything.  You try to see what's happening tomorrow because of what's happening today.  You try to analyze, extrapolate.  You try to see into the future.  You want to know what's going to happen.  "Oh, yes, I will do this as long as I know that this and this and this is going to happen.  If this and this and this is going to happen, then I don't want any part of it."  You analyze, analyze, analyze; think, think, think.

And it is thinking that creates worry.  That's al it is.  You think about tomorrow, instead of saying, "I am who I am.  I am where I am.  I am always where I need to be.  My feet are always on the spiritual path and wherever my feet lead tomorrow, it doesn't matter, because I know it's on the spiritual path."  Oh, no, you can't let that be.  Your mind must try to say, "Oh, where is this spiritual path?  Where is it leading?  Where is the destination?  Where is it going to be?  Where am I going to be tomorrow?  The day after?  The year after?  What am I supposed to be doing here?  Think.  Think.  Think.

It is the analysis and it is the control of ego and the intellectual aspect of that ego personality always trying to control, always trying to dominate.  "What's going to happen to me?  Oh what a miserable person I am.  These things are being imposed upon me," instead of allowing yourself to be who you are and where you are and what you are right now, this very instant.

Coming out of depression is like lifting yourself up by your own bootstraps.  You can choose to allow that depression to run its fullest extent, which we would advocate.  So often, when you have a depression, you try to "cure" it.  You take a pill to get rid of the headache.  You go out and buy yourself an ice cream to cheer yourself up.  You go out to see a movie, something to cheer yourself up and try to forget about what was making you depressed.
 
It doesn't work, my friends.  All that does is repress within your psyche, within your subconscious, the very things that are trying to come to the surface.  It is as though  you are putting the lid on the boiling pot.  Ultimately it must explode.  Much better to let the lid off and let the steam out.
 
When you feel depressed, take a look at that depression.  Allow yourself to experience it to the utmost.  Within your society, you are so intellectual, so logical, that you will not allow yourselves to feel.  You have the feeling body closed down tight — the second chakra is screwed closed.  You will not allow yourselves to feel all the energy of emotion.  Therefore it must manifest in the physical body, it has nowhere else to go.  It can't go upwards, it must go down into the lower frequencies, the physical vibration.  So you manifest a physical illness in your body.

If you are depressed, allow the emotional body its true place within your life.  There is nothing wrong with emotions.  There is nothing wrong with being depressed.  Allow yourself to experience it.  It is one of the experiences of life.  And once you have experienced it to its fullest, let it go.

Have the worst depressive fit that you have ever had in your life, make it a real beauty, wallow in it, enjoy it.  And after awhile it will come to feel and seem so funny, it will dissipate and disappear of its own.  You will recognize how silly it was in the first place.

While you repress it and keep it hidden, you're giving it more power.  It festers, and ultimately must explode.  You have emotions, dear friends.  Allow yourselves to experience them.  Let them come out.  Enjoy them.  Feel them.  If you get angry, throw plates at the wall.  Have a wonderful temper tantrum.  Do whatever you need to do to go through it and not repress it.

They are only negative because you believe they are negative.  Allow yourself to experience them and then you have done with them.  If you repress them and do not and do not allow yourself to experience them, they will only surface again and again and again, until, ultimately, you are forced to experience it one way or the other.  If you choose to experience it when it comes, you will not then have to experience it again later on.

Dear friends, you spend enormous lengths of time in your lives, in your spiritual being, setting up patterns of existence for yourselves.  You go to great trouble to meet each other so you can have experiences together.  You might travel to another city, to another state, to another country, just to meet an individual.
 
And it is all being set up by you and the other individuals in the astral dimensions, quite often while you are asleep.  You set up these patterns and experiences for yourself, and when you get into that experience the ego personality, your current life personality, says, "Oh, I don't want to experience this.  This is painful.  I don't like this.  I don't want it.  I don't want to be here.  Let's get out of it.  Let's take the pill and cure the headache," instead of taking a good look and seeing where the headache came from.

Ultimately go through that headache and recognize that once you've experienced it, you don't ever have to experience it again.  But if you try to cure the symptom, you are simply setting yourself up for a repetition.  You will have to go through all the problems and the bother, of setting up that same situation in your life all over again.  Once you experience that situation, it is done with.  You are then open to the next experience of your life to come forward.
 
If an individual goes to a psychiatrist or a psychologist, they do so because they have a need to see that particular individual.  It is part of their experience.  It is not for us or anybody else to judge that interaction between those individuals.  Psychologists and psychiatrists have great value.  After all, looking at depression is to get down into the inner understanding.  Of course, some psychiatrists and psychologists are better at this than others.  Those who would treat it from a holistic point of view are more likely to be more successful than those who treat it from a mechanical point of view.

Now there is a certain mechanism involved.  You can look upon the subconscious as being a computer with a program in it.  And if you can dig around in that computer, in that subconscious mind and find the program that is running it and change that program, you can remove that difficulty within the life that is creating the depression.  It is the belief that has to be got at within the subconscious.  And there are techniques that allow individuals to skirt around an issue for a very long time and not ever get into it because they are not digging deep enough.

There are other techniques, especially self-hypnosis, that allow for the underlying belief to be got at much more quickly.  It is our view that unless past life is brought into this, you will never get to the ultimate understanding either.  For so much of what seems to be current-life depression or experiences is stemming from other life belief systems that come forward.  And until that is recognized and used, then there is not likely to be as much release of this depression as the individual would like.  But at least in going to psychologists or psychiatrists, there is an attempt to get at the cause of it, not to try to cure it, not to try to get rid of it, but to try to understand it.
  
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Transcript Passages of Commentary From 'Ramtha' through JZ Knight
 
The fall of Spirits that fell seven levels in vibration in order to become a vibrant, living intelligence wasn't the fall of angels who fell from grace but the dynamics of the light of God who made a journey into density, the unexplored realms of physical reality, to make manifest physical reality.
 
 
Remember, a beautiful, loving life is the gift of wisdom . . . every life is like every day: new day, new lifetime, new image.  And the image is providing the friction to grow, to expand, to bring forth this imageless God that hides behind the character  that you have created . . . all the things that constituted you in this lifetime — will fade away.  And only the gems of that lifetime will remain, and that is the wisdom that you gleaned . . . The goal is to expand in evolved consciousness, that all that is unknown becomes known.  Then all that is the universe . . . becomes light, because that which is darkness is unrealized God.  That which is light is realized God.  And that is the destiny, to evolve.
 
 
Yes, human beings exist everywhere in interdimensional universes.  They exist beyond the sun.  They are scattered everywhere in your Milky Way, whole civilizations.  And yet they are the same imageless God who has created the same image of the body in which to experience, on their page of life, the next step in pure consciousness, because that is what drives us all.  (example 'Ramtha' articles: 1, 2)
 

From Article No. 7:  The title of this post that was removed by a moderator at Reddit is: When The Chosen Avatar Incarnates — the Dark Legions Compete Against the Wise Old Master and his Articles of Light During the Harrowing Struggle to Keep the Avatar from Winning the Victory of the Mighty I AM Presence Gained Through Expansion of Consciousness Among Entertainment-Indoctrinated Peoples.

 
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Isn't this evident that Bel John's predicament is your calling as well.

   

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